tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1526554054864016442.post6309649853717138830..comments2008-01-16T21:13:54.896-08:00Revhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05318473548025630951noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1526554054864016442.post-87778762025450105252008-01-16T21:13:00.000-08:002008-01-16T21:13:00.000-08:00I happen to think you are making *ignorant* statements about Russell Means and Trudell being "turncoats". Perhaps you are without knowledge that both of these men have put their lives on the line, for the past 30 plus years, for indigenous peoples at great cost to themselves, yet remain to sustain their challenge no matter what is thrown at them!<BR/><BR/>For instance, Trudell's entire family was murdered in a *very* suspicious fire less than 12 hours after he led a demonstration which sought to publicize f.b.i. lies and warfare against indigenous people. And he remains a leading articulator of indigenous wisdom unparalleled except in the backwoods of traditionalist seeing, in my view.<BR/><BR/>Means on the other hand has sustained a very radical stance on indigenous defense despite the seemingly very tricky methods of his seemingly less ballsy colleagues in AIM. From his politically incorrect stands with the Miskito of Nicaragua, to his being shot at least once, to his pivotal aid in the Autonomous AIM movement (beyond the seemingly ideologically challenged methods of "AIM, Inc.") any half-way conscious person has to ask themselves serious questions, re: how character assasination attempts like these --where no context is allowed to be objectively investigated by the general public-- work to divide up peoples' strength.<BR/><BR/>I have my disagreements with both of these luminaries, but at base, i have much much respect for anyone who sustained articulate challenge in the manner that these men have.<BR/><BR/>For all you Graham supporters, I just have to ask you one thing: What has Graham been up to that even comes close to either of these men?? Telling, and curious.<BR/><BR/>Well, I guess we'll just have to wait for the trial.spiritd duderadicalizedhuman.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1526554054864016442.post-52490645272101215132007-11-19T06:37:00.000-08:002007-11-19T06:37:00.000-08:00I really think that the organization itself has something to do with it. The major success stories that I think of are the Black Panthers and AIM, they allowed people in the community to dedicate there full life to revolution.<BR/><BR/>It allowed people to be organizers and the community supported them, outside of state funding, and secondly the survival programs made people more open.Revhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05318473548025630951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1526554054864016442.post-64982120438125631302007-11-18T16:33:00.000-08:002007-11-18T16:33:00.000-08:00"we have been and still are at odds with the most dangerous, well funded, strongest military and political organization in the history of the world" <BR/>words of Crazy horse, Leonard Peltier.<BR/>Ahnee people, interestin reading I was up late. by the way Kakapuishee means screeching owl, Nish name. How you guys all doing?<BR/>How far would one go to make it happen is my thought?kakapuisheehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15512241272312461090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1526554054864016442.post-86841426366711772792007-11-17T16:56:00.000-08:002007-11-17T16:56:00.000-08:00I think the stark everyday realities experienced by folks, some just saying no, our people don't have to live this way, added to the historical knowledge passed down through elders of the colossal colonial devastation...and then those folks hooking up with others of like mind and will. I'm sure lots of other things as well, but somewhere at some point there has to be that initial refusal to accept as inevitable or ok what is. And just because some people may not understand that refusal ...because there always are... people don't give up. Maybe even because of that lack of understanding, the need to keep on refusing becomes more urgent, more pressing. Just getting bigger and bigger.clarissahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14690465342218580564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1526554054864016442.post-21722759103195373982007-11-14T19:56:00.000-08:002007-11-14T19:56:00.000-08:00Hmmmm...not sure that's exactly how I'd ask the question. I mean, goodness knows we all have a lot of learning to do on our journeys towards changing the world in the ways we want to change it. But talking about it in ways that focus too much on education risk coming across as kind of blaming people for the oppression they are living through, y'know? People need resources, they need to have time that can be spent doing things other than just surviving, they need hope...and so on and so forth...<BR/><BR/>But I shouldn't pick on the word, I guess...I sure don't have any answers that I've ever felt all that satisfied with to the larger question of how to get something going that is that big and that effective at getting things done...Scotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17415106335668233754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1526554054864016442.post-26650728747982606732007-11-14T07:53:00.000-08:002007-11-14T07:53:00.000-08:00I keep wondering, what did it take to start AIM, and all the groups like this. What type of education did it require to get people to rise up?Revhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05318473548025630951noreply@blogger.com